i am looking to build a gun off of blueprints i have drawn up, the issue is that virtually all manufacturers?

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i have done all the math for it, and the design i want would be 100% legal and i have a friend who would help me with the registration as he is an expert (runs a range and used to run a gun shop also) so all i'm asking, is who could build me the ammunition casings for relatively cheep and who could possibly help me with machining the metal parts?

Answer 1

And, who could defend you when you discover that you have violated the patent rights of two or three firearms manufacturers.

Answer 2

Assuming you are talking about a firearm, I wouldn't trust your friend (who runs a range and a gun shop) to know anything about the laws if he says he can help you register the gun. In many states (if not most of them) anyone can legally build a gun for personal use without any kind of registration. Such a homemade firearm cannot be sold or transferred to anyone else. If registration is required by your state, or you wish to build a transferable gun with a serial number, then you must get a federal firearms license (FFL) to manufacture before you build this gun (this will take about 6 months and probably cost a few hundred in fees). Your friend can't help you with that.



As for the "ammunition casings", doesn't your gun require an entire cartridge and more than just the casing? Does your gun require a brand new cartridge design? You might be able to find a very experienced reloader to build you a wildcat cartridge to your specs. I would bet it would cost you $1000 dollars for the first round and probably $10/round after that. Did you really do the math to determine if your gun could handle the pressures of your new cartridge? I think not.



A machine shop or an advanced gunsmith could help you with your metal parts. Plan for about $150-$200 per hour for their help.

Answer 3

Hi John. I suspect it is no coincidence that you're named after a toilet.



You're a complete and utter fu©ktard. Just because some sh!t-for-brains with delusions of grandeur "runs a range and used to run a gun shop" -- and I know this because I know far too many of these types of idiots firsthand, probably more than you do, does not mean he is an expert by any stretch of even your small, warped imagination.



You don't "build" shell casings. You draw them. If you're a fu©king idiot or glutton for punishment. A smart person would take an already existing shell casing and trim it to their specifications, and then resize and reshape it. The fact that you do not know this puts you squarely in the "incompetent moron" category. Done all the math? Bullsh!t. You don't even know what math to do, let alone how to do it. So you're full of sh!t.



Done all the math...that would imply you had some technical skill, which you obviously don't have by the very nature of your question. And your "expert friend" is probably neither, considering in most states, firearms don't need to be registered at all. So you're batting zero for zero, fu©kwit.



I know lots of "designs" from rat sh!t specialists like you, and none of them are worth a sh!t. Maybe you should go learn something or at the very least, teach yourself by going to a library and understanding the principles behind firearms before designing something, because how the hell are you designing this thing, anyway? And why? Are you trying to fill a niche that doesn't exist already? If so, why doesn't the product already exist? Who came before you and tried it?



You are both ignorant and arrogant if you think for one second someone else hasn't been down the same road as you and thought of the same things, and either way, you'll be reinventing the wheel, which is what fu©king morons like you do, all day long. And you know what? I'm fu©king tired of listening to everyone's identical "brilliant design."



So take your sorry @ss somewhere to learn something instead of wasting our time with vague bullsh!t and "expert friends" who probably are neither, and either produce your product right, or go pound sand in your @ss. I don't care which.



And the only reason why I'm letting you waste my time is because this is my hobby. Maybe you should get one, too.

Answer 4

Where is that Lyon-Bastert Meter that one of the regulars here has? You might need one of those.



So basically, you're not only designing a firearm from the ground up, but you're also designing a cartridge from scratch? That doesn't worry you at all?



From which university did you get your degree in metallurgical engineering? Or did you save up your box tops from your Fruit Loops?



Look, I'm not saying that you're telling us falsehoods, but if you have enough knowledge to design and construct your own firearm, don't you think you'd probably also have enough knowledge to find someone who could design the ammunition for you?



I'm willing to bet that a well-equipped machine shop could manufacture a set of dies for the casings you need, and then you can simply fire-form the casing you need from an existing casing that has the same base dimensions. Or, you can pay a crapload of money to have someone make these casings for you, since you will NEVER be able to shoot enough to make it worthwhile for any manufacturer, even on a small scale, to get you somewhere close to "relatively cheap."

Answer 5

You need to find a new friend. If the gun is a legal type, you can manufacture it for your own use without any government intervention. If someone else manufactures it, their firearm manufacturing license will allow them to make it. You should probably just get a mill and lathe and build it your self. If the cartridge is similar to any existing cartridge the existing cartridge could probably be modified to your .whatever John Super. It would be a lot cheaper than custom manufacturing cases.

Answer 6

Lots of union machinists and millwrights have shops at home and could do this job. Wildcat ammo gets bizarre, why isn't your gun capable of being chambered for one of the over 300 standard ammunition rounds? Makes your gun much more marketable. But you could probably sign up for a jewelry making class and learn to cast your own?

Answer 7

OK...so you want to build both a gun and it's ammo from scratch and on the cheap ? Good luck with that, Sparky cause it ain't gonna happen. Maybe you can contact E Stoner or R Barrett and get some advice on how to go about that. They certainly did it on the cheap....just ask 'em.

Answer 8

if it's a pistol you can probably get the dremel mill ($300) and machine your parts, a barrel marker for the barrel. for brass/ammo you'll have to load your own and order custom brass for a brass maker.



it's not cheap if you don't have the right stuff at your disposal...

a CNC/Mill ($3600 2nd hand)

a gunsmith lathe or metalworking lathe ($4000 2nd hand)

a 15/20 ton hydraulic press if necessary ($160 harbor freight tools) ok so that one is cheap

chamber reaming tools - probably $200

deep brass drawing machine - alot of money, unless you can figure out how to make a 200 ton press...



i suggest you stick to an existing caliber or wildcatting an existing caliber. inventing your own is probably out of your reach.