Question:
how Much Recoil does this gun have and is it legal?
2009-06-18 15:10:05 UTC
OK, im 13 yrs old an im lookin to buy an SKS in 7.62X39mm. i have three questions. how much recoil does this calibre have? comparable to a 25-06? secondly, is this gun legal to own in alberta? and thirdly, do you know any good canadian gun sites that i could find this gun??

i found this one, is this a good deal??
http://www.adpost.com/ca/sports_games/2038/
Nine answers:
METROPOLIS1
2009-06-18 15:28:51 UTC
You will not find the recoil objectionable....



Alberta?... I have no idea - I'm in the USA....



Look on youtube at people shooting an SKS -- You will note the recoil is no big deal.... The 7.62x39MM cartridge this gun uses isn't a heavy duty cartridge.... My brothers 12 year old daughter can handle it all day long.......
2009-06-18 17:07:23 UTC
You need to have a family member with a PAL buy it and keep it in their name till you turn 18 and have your PAL. They don't kick hard, I have never shot a .25-06 but I assume it is a based on the 30-06 cartridge therfore much more powerful than the 7.62 Russian. I bough mine from Millarm in Edmonton a few years ago. All the ones sold in Canada have a rivet in the magazine pinning it to 5 rounds.



The cartrigde is a lot like the 30-30 I would not shoot a moose with it but it's fine for deer and people have hunted black bear with them. It's good for less than 100 yards. A case of 1200 or so 1940s, corosive, steel cased, steel cores ammo from a country that does not exist any more is about $200. For hunting you will need some soft point or hollow point. Last time I bought some it was less than $25 a box.



$350 is a good price for a Russian or Yugoslavian made SKS. The Chinese fixed magazine ones go for around $160. A Chinese SKS D that takes AK magazines can be a lot more.
Fatefinger
2009-06-18 15:36:50 UTC
At 13 you can get a "minor’s licence" which does not allow you to purchase a firearm but will allow you to borrow a firearm unsupervised and purchase ammunition. So you could not buy one, you'd have to borrow. Probably from a family member.



An SKS has really not a lot of recoil. Even for a smaller person. Most of the ammo you find is either wolf or barnual which are made in Russia on old soviet tooling equipment, Barnaul and the bear brand is also done the same. Also in Russia. You got hotshot from romania which I would avoid at all costs, and golden tiger again from russia. I don't know canadian to American dollar values but here we are paying right now $.30-$.40 a pop if you know where to look.



You can hunt anything up to to whitetail with it effectivley. Anything larger the round may not be enough to get a clean kill. It was meant for people and we don't have the same hunting ethics we have to each other that we do with game animals. Probably 75 yards without a scope. 125 would be pushing it. And if your hutning deer 75 yards is absolute max. More due to the guns not being very accurate at longer ranges.
2009-06-19 15:42:29 UTC
The SKS recoil in my opinion is mild and fairly light. it can be made even less with a decent AK-style muzzle brake. Its probably about 2x or a .223 rifle. I've never fired a .25-06 rifle before so I don't know about the recoil in relation to that. However, the SKS was my second rifle, after my first rifle, a bolt action .22LR its not too big a step up in terms of recoil from a .22LR rifle. The differences you'll notice is considerable muzzle climb (without a compensator), and a very loud rifle report.



Sorry, I can't help you with the legal part.



additional details part:

are you looking to reload (hand load) in this caliber? in hunting ammunition it is possibly wise to hand load your own ammo. But for target/plinking use its much more practical just to buy the cheapest Wolf ammo instead. 7.62x39mm is one of those "borderline"calibers regarding reloading. Its not expensive enough to make reloading financially more practical, but if you do plan to reload it definitely won't cost too much either. any savings you get from reloading your ammo is marginal at best.

Most 7.62x39mm ammo is split into two groups: steel case berdan primed, which is very cheap and unreloadable, single-use only and much more expensive commercial made ammo with brass cases, boxer primed. Brass cases can be reloaded up to about 15 times at best. 7.62x39mm is only practical to reload if you plan on hand loading the expensive stuff-target, precision, home/self defense, and hunting ammo. You can easily buy the bullets online or in a store. they're .311 in caliber. .308 caliber bullets works also.

The cheap ammo is in reloadable, generally $220 per 1000 rd case bought online or at a gun show. Most likely its under a Russian brand, like Wolf, Barnaul, Golden Tiger, Brown Bear. They're all made in one Russian ammo plant so actually they're the same stuff. Commercial ammo is around $18 per 20 rounds. (money in USD, don't know about your monies).



the 7.62x39mm caliber is an intermediate caliber, in the USA its legal to hunt medium game like whitetail deer with it. there isn't enough power or penetration to take animals bigger than a deer. Its a fun gun for the range and plinking, but not so much useful in hunting. for deer at most 150 yards range.



a similar caliber but much more powerful would be a Mosin Nagant rifle in7.62x54mmR. This time is a full rifle cartridge with much more recoil, significant muzzle blast and power. The Mosin Rifle is a bolt action rifle, ideal for hunting or target use, target to over 500 meters (the rifle sights are in meters) and deer-like animals to over 300 yards. I do not know exactly how big an animal you can hunt with a Mosin rifle, possibly up to a small bear? Ammo is cheaper, $50 for 300 rounds and the gun is cheaper too, $100 at most. I'm pretty sure its legal in Canada, as its not a semiautomatic and Canada has those "anti-assault rifle" laws.
Starman
2009-06-18 17:14:09 UTC
All the answers are good. So I won't go over the first part again.



You need to be sure that it is OK to hunt with a 10 round magazine. Here in California, you are allowed only five rounds. The standard box mag on a Russian SKS holds 10 rounds. You can get replaceable magazines, (not legal in California) but I don't think I have ever seen a 5 round magazine for an SKS. I have one for my AR-15, but that is another story all together.



Also, make sure the rounds you buy are designed for hunting. Some of mine have steel cores and don't do well with hunting. They do tear holes in steel targets though. DOH!
mack_9
2009-06-18 20:41:38 UTC
My 5 year old nephew has shot my son's AR-15 and WASR-10 (AK-47 look alike) multiple shots. The 7.62X39 is similar to a .30-30. Plenty sufficient for whitetails, coyotes, wolves, and small game. I don't know anything about legality in Canada. You should be able to use it out to about 150 yds. Military surplus or Russian ammo is about 30 cents US each on up. Hunting ammo will run closer to $1.00 each. Make sure that you use soft point or hollow point when hunting deer.
2009-06-18 15:31:56 UTC
The recoil is actually very manageable, the SKS is a good rifle, very reliable.
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2009-06-18 16:45:58 UTC
i think you can because its not a fully automatic rifle but you should check with the alberta fish and game officers and/or alberta police to be safe
PoLArEaGLe312
2009-06-18 17:10:54 UTC
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