Had a fun little NFA debate today... is there any hope?

Question

Today at the house a few of the guys had a nice little debate about full auto guns, and the manufacturing of them.

#1: The general consensus is that if you have a class III permit you can buy any full auto gun you want, even a nice brand spanking new Remington ACR (or any other modern full auto rifle) Unless I have been told wrong I could have sworn that only military/law enforcement can get their hands on a full auto made after '86, reagardless of weapons permits?

#2: In idaho law it says that

A personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Idaho and that remains within the borders of Idaho is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of congress to regulate interstate commerce. It is declared by the legislature that those items have not traveled in interstate commerce. This section applies to a firearm, a firearm accessory or ammunition that is manufactured in Idaho from basic materials and that can be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state.

Now there is a house full of 40 (the other two, me and a buddy dont agree) guys that believe they can all go out and make full auto sears for their guns and make their own suppressors and be perfectly 100% legal to own them, as long as they dont go over the border. Cant the ATF still crack down? Is this like the whole colorado pot thing? Where they are saying Colorado law wont enforce marijuana laws but the federal boys still can?

Answer 1

The gun issue you can kiss that freedom good by in the next month or so as Obama will by presidential decree ban assault rifles. He dose not need congressional approval for that. If you were to live in kalifornistan like I do than you would already know the feds are cracking down on the pot dispensaries and farms plus with kali's super majority of libtards it's only a matter of days before they add more gun bans. As long as uncle sam does not get his share of the revenue from pot it will remain illegal at the federal level

Answer 2

What is normally called a Class 3 is an S.O.T. that goes along with FFL 01 or other dealer/manufacturer license. They can own new FA/SF firearms. Civilians get a transer tax stamp. That requires the the gun be registered by May of 1986. In Colorado, it is legal to possess marijuana. That just means that CO can not arrest people for mj. It does not nullify federal law and they can still be arrested and charged under Federal law. Same with firearms in ID. The state supposed can't arrest you for manufacturing and selling guns in violation of federal law, but the Feds still can.

Answer 3

1. There is NO SUCH THING AS A CLASS III PERMIT. FFL dealers can get a Class III Special Occupation Tax (SOT) to deal in NFA weapons for business purposes. These days you really have to show that you are in fact in a firearms business just to get your FFL in the first place. They you have to apply for the SOT, which is expensive and requires further investigation. These NFA machine guns have to be used for business purposes, though certainly you can personally "evaluate them". Also remember that to buy a gun, you have to find a distributor (or possibly a manufacturer) that will actually sell one to you. Generally, they expect you to sell them to law enforcement, etc.



2. Idaho isn't the only state with a similar laws. Check out the Firearms Freedom Act website: http://firearmsfreedomact.com/state-by-state/ My understanding is what will may happen is uncertain and yes it may be similar to drug laws that are in conflict with federal laws. There is nothing in the ID law that says you are in any way protected from federal laws.



I bet these guys can answer your questions:

http://iawca.org/

Answer 4

Yes you are still bounded by the laws. You can't make fully automatic weapons. You can however make guns and sell them within your own branding so long as you stamp them for that state only.