Question:
Why the russian still use VSS Vintorez and Dragunov sniper rifle?
Matthew
2013-08-26 23:27:54 UTC
Alright first of all from my previous question i gotta tell im Asian,And i didn't only learn from the games but on wikipedia and stuff and my parents don't like it for me to go to the army.
Alright now the question.....As i know the american use MK14 EBR for marksman rifle,XM2010 Enhanced Sniper Rifle,M110 Semi-Automatic Sniper System,M24 And Barrett M82 for anti material rifle.But why russian still use the VSS Vintorez and Dragunov sniper rifle and OSV 96 anti material rifle.U.S Got bunch of sniper but the russian stick to Vintorez and Dragunov,Shouldn't they come up with something new
Thirteen answers:
E C
2013-08-27 01:47:03 UTC
The Russians have tons of things that work well. Why fix something that isn't broken?



The VSS Vintorez is pretty much an ingenious suppressed assault rifle derived from the AS Val (which appeared in the 1980s). It is designed around a new 9x39 cartridge, which is heavy enough to still do significant damage when moving at subsonic speeds (as opposed to 5.45 and 5.56 which are too light). The Western equivalent has been the introduction of .300 Blackout.



The SVD was invented in the 1960s, so it is an older design (but about the same as the M14 and Remington 700). The SVD was designed as a general-issue designated marksman rifle. DMRs are designed to be widely deployed among a rifle platoon to extend the reach and range of the platoon. In this role the SVD works well as it is lightweight and capable of accurate but sustained fire (the role of the newer MK14 EBR, except the Russians figured it out decades earlier).



The OSV-96 is an anti-material rifle... not much more you can do about those until we invent light-weight materials or lasers. Incidentally, the OSV-96 was designed in 1996... making it over a decade younger than the M82.



Furthermore all the US weapons you listed are not entirely "new"... most of them are at least 30 years old, or are just modified versions of older firearms.



The M82 was made in... you guessed it, 1982.



The MK14 is pretty much an M14 with some fancy clothes, and the M14 has been around since the Vietnam War.



The XM2010 and M24 are all reworked versions of the Remington 700, which was invented in 1962.



The M110 is pretty much an SR-25, which in turn is pretty much an AR-10. The AR-10 was invented in 1956.



The real story is that most militaries anywhere in the world are always strapped for cash (at least as far as infantry weapons and gear is concerned), and are absolute dinosaurs in terms of actually embracing new technologies. Out of all the weapons you listed, the VSS Vintorez is the only firearm that brings something new and original in its design.
Russ in NOVA
2013-08-26 23:45:38 UTC
Yes. Yes they do. The Vintorez is a special forces weapon only, not a a true sniper rifle. Technically, by US standards the Dragunov SVD is more of a DMR than a sniper rifle. The SV-98 is the Russian sniper rifle similar to the M24.



Don't forget that the XM2010 is just a modernized evolution of the Remington 700 developed in the 60's and the M110 is an evolution of the 1950's AR10 and the MK14 is an evolution of the 1950s M14.



It costs a lot of money to develop and supply new military equipment. Countries cannot easily upgrade their arms willie nillie to every video game boy's wet dream. Here is a site for the one of the largest arms plants in Russia: http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/weapon.shtml if you want to see what is up to date.
jaegers
2016-10-06 12:50:50 UTC
Xm2010 Enhanced Sniper Rifle
Uriah D
2014-05-22 06:37:19 UTC
First you have to understand the difference between Allied Doctrine and Warsaw Doctrine. Warsaw Pact countries rely on large numbers of troops and equipment, launching human wave attacks. Allied countries rely more on precision. Russia does not field Scout Snipers, therefore they have no need for a true "sniper rifle." The Dragunov is a marksman's rifle, at best. One in every ten soldiers is issued one so that they can engage enemy combatants at a distance as their troops move forward.
Lesha
2015-08-19 10:13:43 UTC
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RE:

Why the russian still use VSS Vintorez and Dragunov sniper rifle?

Alright first of all from my previous question i gotta tell im Asian,And i didn't only learn from the games but on wikipedia and stuff and my parents don't like it for me to go to the army.

Alright now the question.....As i know the american use MK14 EBR for marksman rifle,XM2010 Enhanced...
Tony Cruz
2013-08-26 23:38:53 UTC
Russians have a strong sense of pride and legacy. They probably have the mind set if my old Dragunov or VSS Vintorez can take out your modern XM2010 ESR then I am better than you. Its like for example if two rappers had a rap battle and one was a famous old school rapper and one is famous today. If the old school rapper demolishes the new guy in a rap battle he can claim that he is better no matter how current the new rapper is. Or another example if some new Italian Restaurant with a hot tv star chef opened up across the street from a classic family Italian restaurant. When a year passed the family Italian did way better in profits than the new one across the street it would make that classic restaurant seem more pristine and legit. Get it?
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2016-12-16 14:31:11 UTC
Vss Rifle
338 edge
2013-08-26 23:47:21 UTC
Why come up with something new. Those guns work. Your list sounds like its right off of COD. We just changed the caliber and called it a new rifle for one of those. Another is just a longer range infantry weapon not a sniper rifle. The Barret is new but the Russians have a couple anti-materiel rifles too.
acmeraven
2013-08-27 10:09:43 UTC
The Russian Army has never forgotten the old addage of "KISS"; which is "keep it simple stupid". They make things that will work in the worst of climate under the most advers conditions; and, if it isn't broke they don't waste time and money fixing it. This is why you see the AK47 being used by people who never clean a weapon and use them to drive tent stakes; while other rifles have to be cleaned on an hourly basis to even function.
josh
2013-08-27 21:41:24 UTC
I will tell you why the US has so many new rifles compared to Russia, or any other country. Simply put.... we spend a lot of money on military. Even though it works, we'll still find something new to test and field.
anonymous
2014-05-03 07:48:56 UTC
Appart from what 'E C' Russians have also new SR-3 Vikhr assault riffle developed in 90. and then redesign for silent sniping (SR-3M version) based on AS VAL. It is really short uses 9x39 bullet and has detachable silencer, new folding stock, battery in handle and some Picatinny rails.
Chris
2013-08-27 00:34:11 UTC
I am sure they will get right on that and re-budget their defense funds. I mean why not base your funding off the desire to please a gamer who wants a new upgrade in his favorite first person shooter right?



Go bug the military section with your childish questions. Your question is not only irrelevant to this section, it is moronic in its minuscule scope.
?
2013-08-27 05:22:27 UTC
Why should they if what they have works?



Especially the VSS. The firearm and ammo are carefully guarded state secrets. We can't even get them here; Why do you suppose that is?


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