Question:
New to shooting handguns...well, very new?
2009-12-05 22:23:12 UTC
I got a .22 revolver today and its practically the 1st handgun I've ever shot (shot one once before, but only about 10 rds thru it).. so along with shooting a new gun comes learning something new.
I don't want to teach myself any bad habits (don't have anyone to teach me) and I don't want to end up being stuck in a rut when/if I'm able to have someone show me.

Well, I got the basics down like stance, but other than that, I'm lost. I shot about 100 rds today and if I do say so myself, I'm fairly decent, but I know I have a lot to learn.

So, help?
I know this is every general, but general info is real helpful now and I'll probably ask some more questions later on that are more in-depth.
Fourteen answers:
cliff
2009-12-06 14:42:51 UTC
The NRA has a nice video out for stance and tactics for personal defense. The guy does a nice job at telling you the rights and wrongs. I am new at shooting a couple different pistol events and his drills helped bring my scores up. You will have to join the NRA to get the video but if you don't already belong you should as they fight there butts off for us gun bearing citizens.
Fatefinger
2009-12-06 06:45:37 UTC
Well you know about stance. Even I catch myself leaning back sometimes. You don't need to hunch over, just don't lean back. .22's are easy enough as I always hit center of mass but once you move up to larger calibers you might have some control issues. If you do find your aiming weird (I sometimes aim down and to the left) a .22 helps you figure out what your doing wrong. A firm grip, try to keep you gripping hand as high as you can get it, have the surface want to bite into your skin. But dont go to high or your may get bit by the slide (semi-auto's) It helps a little with recoil management. Grip it tight but not to tight or you may be hitting to the left (I had/have that issue) I'm not good with handguns at a range, I think because I'm still a bit new I feel that people stare and think "this guy sucks". I do a whole lot better when plinking alone. Work your way back slowly when going to longer distances. It really takes a couple thousand rounds to be good with a handgun. I know a guy who has probably put 20,000 rounds through various handguns and he has trouble after 20 yards. Perfect is the enemy of good enough.



I did a really horrible job explaining myself didn't I?



Most situations when it comes to handgun defense are 10 feet or less.
Don
2009-12-06 17:12:35 UTC
Annie:



I don't know what model you have. It may, or may not be safe to store it with a round in the chamber aligned with the hammer. It may have a positive safety, or another type of safety that prevents it from firing if dropped. Read your manual for a recommendation on this matter.



Get a good holster, that you'll use. A handgun is always safer stored in a holster.



If you are keeping it loaded for home defense purposes, keep it loaded with quality, high velocity ammunition. CCI Stingers, or Mini-mags come to mind. Aguilla Interceptors, I believe is another brand.



For practice, and plinking, stay away from anything Remington. Dirty, Dirty, Dirty. Your cylinder may end up binding on the frame, from the dirt.



I like the value of Federal 550 bulk packs. They're clean, and reliable.



Practice shooting golf balls, tossed out in front of you. Bounce them out as far as you can reliably hit them, then retrieve them. Do it again.



Once you can reliably hit a golf ball @ about 25 yards, you won't need anyone to tell you where to hit the bad guy. I hate shooting at paper, unless I am analyzing a rifle, or handgun. Golf balls are so much more fun.
MJ
2009-12-06 13:39:42 UTC
They have covered technique well. All good advice except for "shoot ' em in the arm" man. I thought I read that this was a revolver yesterday? I would much rather have a .22 revolver than auto for self defense. If the weapon fails to fire just keep pulling the trigger. Try that with an auto! Keep shooting until the threat subsides. After that get a lawyer. Even though you are in the right, of course. Taking a concealed carry class is a good idea, if your state has them. (Even if you don't plan to carry.) They should deal with self defense and legal issues.
eddygordo19
2009-12-06 10:26:01 UTC
Generally, there's two styles of shooting handguns: bullseye and combat.



Bullseye is a competitive target method where you shoot one handed. You stand with your strong side foot forward and your body facing 90 degrees from the target. Your shooting arm is fully extended giving yourself the longest sight radius possible. A light single action trigger pull is required.



Combat has two general methods: sighted and point shooting. Point shooting is normally reserved for fast up close shooting. Most combat handgun shooting today is done using the modern method of shooting that was pioneered by Jeff Cooper and Jack Weaver. The stance is either Weaver, Modified Weaver or Isosceles. The Weaver and M Weaver require you to stand like a boxer, with your weak side foot forward. Isosceles has you standing squared to the target. Weaver and M Weaver has your weak arm elbow bent. Weaver has the shooting arm slightly bent and M. Weaver has the shooting arm straight. Isosceles has both arms straight, forming an isosceles triangle.



The grip of all three stances is the same. The shooting arm pushes forward, and the weak arm pushes back. The opposing forces promote a stable platform. The shooting hand grips the gun as high as possible and the barrel is in line with your forearm bones. The weak hand cups the fingers of the shooting hand and pulls straight back. The weak hand does not apply any pressure to the bottom of the gun. Movies that show the weak hand cupping the bottom of the handgun are incorrect and promote reliability problems with semi-auto handguns due to magazine malfunctions.



Those are the basics. The rest you'll teach yourself with practice. Have fun!



EDIT: Aim center mass.
dca2003311@yahoo.com
2009-12-06 16:02:54 UTC
Most Important is Grip, Sight Alignment, Gripping and Squeezing at the same time until the Handgun fires.* Start Shooting first at a range of Five (5*) yards.* Do not advance any further in distance until you have Mastered Shooting it at Five Yards.*... Always come down on your target: Example; Barrel, or Sights will always be above what you are trying to hit or shoot at, Never begin at the bottom of your Target and raise, or come up on it.* Use the Six (6* ) o-clock hold when holding and aiming at your Target. Example; Balance, and Hold the Front Sight below and beneath the Target you are aiming at.*< (6)-O-Clock Hold>* If it was a Golf Ball you were trying to hit you would be able to see the Complete Golf Ball Perched and Balanced on the Top of the Front Sight.* Another way of describing it is using the Small Letter { i }, the Vertical line of the letter will be just touching the base or bottom of the Dot.** " Breathe, Relax, Aim, Squeeze, and Fire "...<> For Self- Defense always use hollow point ammo and put them either in the Chest, Neck or Head for Maximum effectiveness.*
Tahoeguy
2009-12-06 06:46:06 UTC
From my experiance, most new revolver shooters grasp the grip too far down. If your pistol is a DA/SA, with the gun unloaded, c0ck the hammer and grasp the grip as far up as you can, the web of your thumb and index finger should be just below the hammer, and right at the top of the grip (on most revolvers).



The other is when shooting double action, some folks try to 'stage' the trigger in a halfway position, then finish the pull. Sort of halfway so it could be released if you changed your mind.This is a bad habit. Releasing the trigger too fast (on a gun without a hammer block), the gun could accidently fire, or the cylinder could get left in a halfway position, with no round in line with the barrel. When shooting double action, it should be a constant even pull until the hammer breaks. If you need a longer range more accurate shot, c0ck the hammer manually as a single action.



For all pistols, the front sight is the one to focus on. it should be slightly blurry in your field of view, with the target in crisp focus (not unlike a shotgun....). Keep it level and centered between the rear sights.



Pick up a copy of Combat Handgun by Massad Ayoob. It sounds intimidating, but its a great book regarding the pistol as a competitve and self defense weapon.



You'll be adding IPSC to your list of firearms competition in no time girl!
gentlewolfspaws
2009-12-06 15:34:11 UTC
Congratulations on your first handgun. A .22LR revolver is a great addition to any collection.



As for the legal issues (especially regarding having to shoot someone), Mister Miyagi from the movie Karate Kid summed it up nicely, "Best block, no be there!"

I imagine restraining orders, calling 911 at appropriate times, evading & avoiding risky situations, training yourself for likely scenarios and advisory discussions with your lawyer would be helpful for your specific situation.



There are some helpful books about self-defense I can recommend.

"In the Gravest Extreme" by Massad Ayoob

"Armed & Female" by Paxton Quigley

"Self Defense Requires No Apology" by Jan Jones

"Self-Defense: Steps to Survival" by Katy Mattingly



A good DVD video is "Armed Response - Tactics and Techniques for Defensive Shooting" by David Kenik and Ralph Mroz. It's part of a series of training DVD's they produced. They also have book version covering the instruction contained in three videos.



Other people have covered the Weaver, Modified Weaver and Isosceles stances. Also mentioned were helpful hints about trigger control, squeezing and follow through. I can echo the 'start slow and smooth, let speed come to you later' advice.



Taking personal defense and home defense courses would provide invaluable knowledge and training. Also, the instructors could observe your techniques and offer specific corrective instruction, if necessary.



In home defense discussions, "Layered Defense" is a concept mentioned often. The home becomes an onion-like zone with layers of protection. Some things are fairly obvious, like keeping windows & doors closed and locked. Other things, such as having thorny bushes & shrubs carefully placed around the home in order to discourage people from using windows as a means of entry may be considered more subtle ways of creating boundaries and obstacles against unwanted intruders on your property. Dogs often make good alarm systems.

http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/homesecurity.html



At your home and personal shooting range, pehaps a fence may help control who can access your site and from which directions they'll be likely to approach from. Dry twigs, trip-wires that shake empty tin cans, and other simple early-warning systems may help you detect approaching people or vehicles while you're wearing ear-muffs on a firing line.



While lethal force is an option, it is also the last resort. Consider adding non-lethal options to your array of skills and equipment.



A pistol is often more difficult to aim than a rifle. It is not that pistols are inaccurate. They're difficult to shoot well because of their shorter sight-radius, their limited surface area and leverage available to hold them & keep them steady, and their smaller mass offers less resistance to recoil.

But with practice of good techniques, a shooter can learn to engage targets with efficient proficiency.



The "center of mass" is where you want your shots to impact.



There are two major schools of thought regarding sight pictures.

http://www.targetshooting.ca/docs/pistol_sighting.pdf

-- The older and more traditional method is the "six o'clock hold". The shooter aligns their sights and rests them at the bottom of a bullseye on a paper target and the shots impact the center of the bullseye. Because of the variables involving the size of a bullseye and the distances from a shooter to a target, the "six o'clock hold" is usually reserved for target shooting competition techniques.

-- The better method of sighting-in a handgun is the "center of mass" hold. When a shooter aligns their sights properly and aims at the dead center of a target, the shots impact the center of the target. The point of impact corresponds with the center of the top of a front sight. Not higher, not lower and neither left nor right from center.



There is also point shooting. I've provided links below, in order to do it justice.



Again, congratulations, good luck and enjoy your revolver Annie. :-)
2009-12-06 06:50:34 UTC
Ok hunny basics like any other gun.

Practice practice practice.

Ok so it's a 22, so not much recoil there, and ya got stance down pretty down so. Remember without proper instruction you may create small bad habits, those can be fixed with proper instruction later on.



Now as for shooting, this is hard to describe without showing someone lol. Maybe this could help you a bit. I ain't much for shooting revolvers (prefer my semi auto handguns.)

http://www.myoutdoortv.com/pdk/web/smith.html?feedPID=00zG15zm84msK0GbWemanhJ0KNWQYqM4



Also as stated previously by fate finger, most self defense situations happen with in 10 feet or less. SO if you practice close for most things that is realistic simulation of how far you would be shooting at in a SD situation. I like to shoot out far because it's fun and more challenging though lol ;-)



Also I don't know if this may help to (article):

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob85.html



Hunny if you gotta shoot someone, shoot them in the chest. I would say use the rifle though, 22s have been known to be stopped by heavy clothing, hell my thick leather jacket may stop a 22 (don't wanna try tho lol I like that coat). At least till your shotgun gets fixed, and you are surely right, a 22 is no ideal caliber =I for defense. But no one wants to get shot so hope that someone is smart enough to stop and change their mind.



No matter what always aim for center mass (the chest) unless ya really have to defend yourself and the shot is do-able put one in their brain bucket.
2009-12-08 19:18:25 UTC
Something that almost no one does: Practice shooting with your weak hand. With the .22, it's very affordable.



As for a .22 for self defense..."it sure beats a sock in the eye" **







** Opie Taylor (1962).
2009-12-06 13:29:29 UTC
I see what you did with your name there, clever...



Avoid flinching, and using the middle pad of your finger to pull the trigger. Also keep your finger off the trigger until your on target and ready to fire.



If you want to be on the safe side, leave and call 911, if you feel like you would use your gun for self defense I would highly recommend a self defense class. Maybe followup with some Krav Maga.
2009-12-06 17:33:34 UTC
One thing I do when shooting a revolver is that I use the first joint of my thumb to cock it instead of the end of my thumb. This way my thumb never slips off. I was told to do this at a very young age and now do it by habit.

Where to aim when defending yourself? Since we tend to shoot high when excited, aim about six inches below the belt.
niteracer
2009-12-06 10:58:27 UTC
You got some pretty good advice so far so I'll just add that if you are right handed as most people be sure to get some practice with your left hand too.
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2009-12-06 10:47:40 UTC
im 16 and all i know is the best place to shoot somone if you dont want them dead is the arm so...ya i know its pointless but i need the points :)


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