Question:
why do people hate hi point pistols?
well armed E. GUANA
2011-05-07 19:06:58 UTC
i own a hi point c9 and find it reliable and accurate but ugly as sin. but people who have never even shot one bash it. is it the price?
Eleven answers:
bakes
2011-05-07 23:40:55 UTC
Well I bought one when I first got into guns because I had just started and it was only $150(.40 cal). Yes it has never miss fired on me, and mine seems to be very accurate. Although it is very top heavy. The material is A LOT less sturdy. Inside the slide where the shell hits the top before being ejected there is an increasing crevice being formed. Finally yes it is a very ugly gun. I personally don't hate it. Although in the upcoming future after I buy an AK47 I am going to trade it in for an fs92. This gun has its place: its great for a starter gun and those who can't afford better. Its funny I asked a question on here about how important looks are for a gun. Most people said it was not very important at all. I think a lot of them were lying. No one wants a hi point because of the looks.
anonymous
2011-05-08 06:04:40 UTC
Don't hate, but they are just in a different quality class that the glocks, springfields, sigs, etc.



Lets make a car analogy and use a ford focus and BMW 3 series as examples.



Both are about the same size, hold the same number of people, and will get you up to the speed limit no problem.



So, on paper the focus is a no brainer winner in terms of bang for buck. So is the hi-point. But, when you want to push the performance envelope, the BMW will do the higher speeds more confidently, more consistently, and with more pizzazz. In a real defense situation, I would want the best.



Anytime you move up the price ladder of similiar products, you get diminishing returns on investment. You can get a good car for 15K, but you don't get double the performance for 30K. You need to buy a car that fits your budget, needs, and interest. Same with a gun, and manufacturers have an array of guns at varying price points that meet different needs, interests, and budgets.
anonymous
2016-12-04 06:27:00 UTC
Their layout is a compromise, first and optimum. In any autoloading pistol which makes use of direct blowback, something has to hold it close while that is fired till the stress point drops low sufficient for it to cycle accurately. some weapons try this with a heavy balk spring. Others try this with a heavy slide. The heavy balk spring is extra like a Walther PP or PPK. The heavy slide type is that which you will locate on the hi-factor. This makes the full GUN heavier than maximum persons believe it should be. Going to a browning layout or different locking layout enables weight to be saved the two in the balk spring and the slide, besides as assisting with the balk impulse. The hi-factor's best flaws are its magazines and its firing equipment, the two one in each and every of that are seen "bare minimum for function." i'm going to confess, i've got positioned approximately 2 hundred rounds downrange with a hi-factor, and had no malfunctions. i did no longer like the area or the size of the protection, which felt extra like it became designed for ease of manufacture, no longer ergonomics...and it shows. i would not have one as an obligation sidearm, because of the fact solid on the form isn't comparable to solid decrease than rigidity. It shot "ok" as adverse to "superb" that's i think what i've got come to anticipate from a professional-grade 9mm pistol. in keeping with hazard i'm in basic terms a gun snob, yet I anticipate extra from a firearm, and that i comprehend what i choose, and that that is already obtainable -- and that i'd desire to pay for it.
thinkingblade
2011-05-07 19:54:00 UTC
Hate is a strong word. I don't own one, and I don't ever plan to own one. I've handled them and traded rounds with guys at the range who have them to see what they are like. I don't particularly like them, and probably wouldn't shoot one if it were given to me - I'd probably sell it and get a race holster for one of my other guns. However, hate? No, I'm not going to go that far.



But why? Well, for one, I shoot enough to where my requirements are more than just that they are reliable. I didn't find the couple I've tried to be particularly accurate, I think the triggers are heavy and crude and they are bulky with a high barrel to height distance making followup shots slower.



Now, that being said - I'm not actually saying they are a poor value. In fact, given the choices of centerfire pistols under $200 I can't argue with them. But that isn't really my market.



So, where is the problem? Well, it's often because, for whatever reason, Hi Point shooters seem defensive about their choice. Granted posters here given them a hard time about the choice, but then again, Glock shooters and Ruger afficionados and about everyone else gets reamed out more or less by the folks out here at some point or another. I'm perfectly willing to grant that your HiPoint suites your purposes fine, but it isn't the equal in performance and quality to my SIG 226R. Or for that matter my CZSP01. Both of which I have also subsequently had customized for certain features.



Now, I don't mind that your choice was to spend 25% of the money ($200 vs. about $800) for 60% of the quality of my SIG. That's what's great about America - you get to do that, and I get to make my choice. I don't even care WHY you made that choice - you could just be cheap, you could possibly not afford more right now, whatever. I'm glad it serves your purposes right now.



So, what does quality mean? Probably different things to different people, but for me, inherent accuracy, practical accuracy, reliability, ergonomics, fit and finish, durability and something more subjective that I think of as refinement of design all matter to me. In that light the HiPoint doesn't measure up to other guns. That doesn't mean it can't be a good value - that would be Quality/Price. It just means I don't want one.



Ultimately, people will always give you cr@p about whatever you have for whatever reasons. Just shoot it and don't worry about what others think.



Thinkingblade
METROPOLIS1
2011-05-07 23:23:06 UTC
Who knows?... Gun snobs?.... Spending more cash makes you superior?.... There kind of cheap feeling?... Not sure.... A Hi-Point C9 is what it is... A cheap pistol.... I own 2 of them, I also own many fine pistols by Springfield Armory, Glock, Ruger, etc.... My Hi-point C9's have been reliable and fun to shoot.... No I'm not going to tell you there as great as my expensive guns, but for the $150 a piece I spent on them I think I got a good value.....



http://www.mouseguns.com/hipoint/myhpc9.htm



If this gun is for recreation or to just have around the house, then I say great!.... But if this is for concealed carry personal protection the really do consider a better more quality firearm.....
anonymous
2011-05-07 20:10:37 UTC
For the same reason fine wine drinkers will look down at you for drinking Ripple. You can argue that Ripple gives as much of a buzz as a lot of more expensive wines... and aficionados of fine wine will tell you there's more to the experience than just getting buzzed.



You may think your Hi-Point pistol is equal quality to higher priced brands.... and that's your prerogative. People who know more about firearms may have differing opinions. As long as you're satisfied... what else matters?



Personally if I intended to defend the lives of my family and myself and could only afford a Hi-Point then I would sacrifice some other aspect of my life to buy a top quality tool. It's that important to me. I look at people who use firearms professionally and I see NONE of them choosing Hi-Points... and that's recommendation enough for me.
anonymous
2011-05-07 19:14:18 UTC
Some times they have been know to have problems but so have most guns.It is the ego thing people don't want to be seen with a gun that looks like **** they prefer there glocks and sigs
?
2011-05-07 21:02:13 UTC
No clue....other than the 'feel' of the gun. It is usually reliable, cheap and will out-shoot a Glock any day!
anonymous
2011-05-07 19:14:48 UTC
Common theme here https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20091121095208AAIjUOk
HorizontalBlimp
2011-05-07 19:12:31 UTC
Because people are embarrassed to admit their $650 Glock is equally reliable to the high points.



Of course the gun is made out of cheaper materials, but that doesn't make it unreliable.



@ Fatefinger, you saw one blow up? Must've been a lemon.
Fatefinger
2011-05-07 20:13:34 UTC
I've watched one explode in someones hands.



Now thumb me down.


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